Off-topic reply, but this is an amazing resource. Thank you for creating and posting it.

I’ve long suspected I’ve had it and so much of what you’ve listed speaks to me.

Thanks so much for the kind words! Hope it leads to more self-discovery for you!

TiddlyWiki wouldn't be great on my Phone, but also (and I'm not sure why) but I've never gotten it to work reliably for me.

I do most of my editing on my laptop, but a non-trivial amount is done via the phone. Mostly adding new links and stuff via iOS Shortcuts I made.

That said, I love this Wiki. I'll be adding it to my ADHD note :)

Thanks!

Indeed, I don't edit it on the phone. I use Google Keep a lot though, and then merge the notes on the desktop.

I like how this comment set me off spending the next hour reading and watching stuff on ADHD while the time passed like it was one minute.

Now I'm actually surprised to have returned back to this HN thread.

Meta ADHD.

If we assume that there is a cure for ADHD, which tools and programs would be needed to accumulate and distill all relevant information and let people with ADHD discover and implement that cure?

>If we assume that there is a cure for ADHD

Honestly, the "cure" for 90% of ADHD symptoms is fixing our society that expects everybody's brains to work the same way for no good reason.

Most people are expected to be happy getting educated the same way, going to work at the same hours, and generally fulfilling the same sort of expectations.

We don't expect a racecar to be a great vehicle for hauls to home depot, but we expect all humans to be good with coming to work on time, filing taxes, paying fines promptly, etc — even when a lot of this can be automated away.

Then there are stimulants like Adderall which help people with ADHD manage the symptoms that affect them, like executive dysfunction.

But overall, the way ADHD is diagnosed is, remarkably, by how much inconvenience it causes to others.

Which is more of a you-problem than a me-problem ("you" here refers to society).

>which tools and programs would be needed to accumulate and distill all relevant information and let people with ADHD discover and implement that cure?

Tiddliwiky and social networks to raise awareness.

Frankly, that's going to get most of us about 90% there.

Most of "cure" of ADHD if changing the lifestyle and expectations.

Other than that, repeat after me: ADHD is not a disease, and does not need to be cured. Neither is autism.

Both can be a great asset too.

There is more than one neurotype.

> ADHD is not a disease, and does not need to be cured. Neither is autism. Both can be a great asset too.

That is an actively harmful statement. It is akin to saying losing a leg is not a disease and can be a great asset. ADHD is executive function disorder where person is unable to manage time and memory which is required for basic living. It may also come with issues in emotional regulation and other problems.

It is NEVER an asset. People maybe able to manage it and succeed despite having it never because of it.

You-problem becomes me-problem if you want to keep job/friends/partner or simply you want to keep track of the keys and turn off the gas.

>It is akin to saying losing a leg is not a disease

Well, it's not. Losing a leg is losing a leg. It is not a disease.

It is, however, a disability, which is something ADHD may be.

But, unlike losing a leg, ADHD is not just a disability. It comes with a different set of abilities. Understanding that is key for a fruitful life and relationships - and that applies to both people with ADHD and without.

>ADHD is executive function disorder where person is unable to manage time and memory which is required for basic living. It may also come with issues in emotional regulation and other problems.

Note that we are not in disagreement here.

A disorder is not a disease. And executive dysfunction and time (mis)management are not the only ADHD traits. There are many others.

ADHD traits become symptoms when they impede one's life. Those can be treated and managed, but not cured (unlike diseases).

>It is NEVER an asset.

This statement is patently wrong and harmful.

People with ADHD are known to handle emergencies better than neurotypical people, for example. Having an immensely diverse set of skills and interests (which ADHD people are amenable to) is an asset.

So is hyperfocus[1].

There's a reason why you are more likely to find people with ADHD among software engineers and musicians.

It would be wrong to say that ADHD is an asset in today's world. But it can be, if you understand how your brain functions like, and have the right expectations.

What you say is akin to saying that a racecar is NEVER an asset because it gets stuck in the mud, unlike a tractor. Well, duh! It doesn't belong there.

>You-problem becomes me-problem if you want to keep job/friends/partner or simply you want to keep track of the keys and turn off the gas.

Sure, but again, you are not evaluating ADHD from the perspective of the person that has ADHD. Of course if you only look at how it inconveniences others, you will arrive at the conclusion that ADHD only inconveniences others.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Also, your comment is just the example of the society having idiotic/unreasonable expectations that creates a problem. Let's look at it again:

>or simply you want to keep track of the keys and turn off the gas.

Or you can simply install a door with a code lock (or put a spare key in a lockbox) and use an electric stove with auto shut-off (or instant pot/air fryer/microwave) to cook.

Presto! The problem isn't caused by ADHD, it's caused by having an expectation to do things that are hard for ADHDers when other solutions exist.

Which is another perspective of how ADHD is an asset: ADHD-friendly devices, interfaces, and ways of doing things are, in general, more human-friendly.

ADHD makes it hard to remember to switch off the lights, and easy to invent the automatic shut-off sensor. Which, ultimately, is good for everyone.

See my point?

[1]https://romankogan.net/adhd/#Hyperfocus

This is a fantastic resource. Thank you.

Thank you! Comments like this more than make my day.

Thank you for this

Glad it was helpful!